JUDY WOODRUFF, PBS NEWSHOUR: Your son Hunter, you have been asked a lot of questions about this. But my question is, both of you have said you wouldn't, as president, have your children, have him or your children involved with foreign countries. My question is, if it's not appropriate if Joe Biden is president, why was it appropriate when you were vice president? FMR. VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: Well, number one, no one has established that he did anything wrong or that I have done anything wrong, period. I have carried out the policy of the United States of America, our allies in the International Monetary Fund, the E.U., in dealing with a corrupt prosecutor, period, number one. I didn't know he was on the board of that company. And, in fact, no one has asserted on the board that it illegal for him to be on the board or he did anything wrong. WOODRUFF: But, if you had known, would you have said, don't, or would you have believed — said, this is wrong? BIDEN: No, it's not wrong. He — his words speak for themselves. He wished he had realized how thugs like Rudy Giuliani and his cronies and the cronies of the president would try to paint it. The fact is, there's been nothing established that he did anything wrong. The reason for saying my children wouldn't be involved in foreign affairs and/or in any affairs is because of what's happened in this administration, this administration. I want to make sure everybody understands that there's going to be a hard, fast rule. No one in my family will be involved in anything. They will not have offices in the White House. They will not sit in on Cabinet meetings. They will not have foreign interests. And the fact is that all of what's been said, as you have observed — I'm not asking you to agree with this, but as you have observed — has been basically, usually, mainstream reporters say, and Trump said. But it's not true. It's been a lie. Why is he doing it? He doesn't want to run against me, period.