"Do you plan to try to use campaign funds or PAC money to try to pay some of the penalties in the New York defamation and fraud cases? I don't understand. What? Are you thinking of potentially trying to use campaign money to pay some of those penalties that you've been fighting for? What penalties? In the New York fraud case, the defamation case. I didn't do anything wrong. I mean, that's been proven as far as I'm concerned. And actually, we won in the Court of Appeals. You probably saw that. That case has been largely won in the Court of Appeals. That was a political case coordinated with the White House by the Attorney General, I assume is what you're talking about. And we won that case largely in the Court of Appeals. What's the parallel to the defamation case that you called? That's a ridiculous case. That case is a ridiculous case. We're appealing it. It is... She didn't know anything about me. She didn't know when it happened. There was nothing. People are looking at that case. It's a disgrace. We're appealing that case. We had a very hostile judge. We're appealing that case. It's a ridiculous case."